It's another titillating episode of The Dave Hill Goodtime Hour as Dave, Dez and Chris discuss alpaca sweaters, micro-dosing, klonopin, rumors about ZZ Top and the Doors, and then welcome author Paul Myers and musician Mike Adams to the program for hot live podcasting times. Recorded live February 15, 2021.
It's another titillating episode of The Dave Hill Goodtime Hour as Dave, Dez and Chris discuss alpaca sweaters, micro-dosing, klonopin, rumors about ZZ Top and the Doors, and then welcome author Paul Myers and musician Mike Adams to the program for hot live podcasting times. Recorded live February 15, 2021.
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yes hello and welcome to the dave hill good time hour with me dave hill from before hi how are you i'm a [ __ ] mess but other than that i'm really great how are you doing boy criminal chris gerspick i'm fantastic hey when um the video went off did it come in like super loud after that the angel witch or was it like level a little later it came in super loud everyone was okay i'm i did a big book blog post about it i'm sorry how are you doing new jersey chicken rancher uh dez doing great dave you look very trim is that the lighting it could be the lighting you mean like trim as in the beard or weight wise because uh just right over here very ill no no no weight-wise weight-wise ah you know it's the magic of tv i suppose it could be the magic of tv yeah i would have thought after all this time chris do you have one of those ring lights that everyone has nah guys do you have one no i would have thought after the 47 years we've been in this pandemic and zooming and stuff i would have invested in one of those ring lights because they're flattering you know for auditions and things but i still haven't and there's just a harsh uh ceiling light above me crashing down it's a lot highlighted oh my yeah i'm gonna do it about two days before they officially announced that uh we're back to normal times which won't be another years from now but still what is that announcement gonna sound like do you think they're gonna be like get on out there and [ __ ] everybody no i don't know i think what's gonna happen it'll be you know those street fairs in new york that are like the same street fair on every street yeah it's like alpaca sweaters uh the corn that has all the sauce on it no joke i got my wife and i'll pack a dress at one of those things like a year ago nothing wrong with that is it does she take it on the town or would she in normal times uh yeah i should clarify but i mean i don't know if you meant alpaca like it was actual alpaca fur or just like i believe it of an alpaca i think they're made of alcohol and then sometimes they feature a depiction of a depiction of an actual alpaca which is different from a llama could not be more different no yeah this dress just had pictures of alpacas that's what triggered the memory for me at least i would like an alpaca based uh garment but uh well it sounds great is my point um
we have an incredible program tonight uh assuming both of our guests show i sent them to both the zoom which right there just hearing that sense that i was responsible for getting them the zoom link doesn't bode well for either one of them they uh they both retweeted uh the tweet oh oh okay and coming in hot uh uh and they both have my number they could always call me here on my cellular telephone um the number here is 347-474-0260 that's three four seven four seven four o two six zero that's once again three four seven four seven four o two six zero um so let's just light up those phones uh it's going to be an explosive program we have um do you guys know this has recently come into my uh uh celebrity todd barry told me about this and then now i saw this article in the new york times about it there's a new app guys okay do you know what app you're trying to say stereo or clubhouse clubhouse clubhouse yeah do we have to get on that and what's that do we have to get on that i don't want to i'm on it apparently um i signed up because celebrity todd barry kept saying i sent you an invite you should sign up for it so i signed up for it just like a celebrity social media i don't know but just celebrities wall-to-wall now and i didn't turn the notifications off so it's just but as best i can tell it's like
um like all things in life it's just some version of something that's already happened yeah and it seems to be like a chat line where to be like these three people are talking about baking and then you listen and then they're talking about i don't know how it works at all i'm not getting paid to say this i have no intention of engaging with this app i want to engage with less apps but i was just curious if you guys knew anything about it or maybe if any callers might know it sounded very similar to the stereo app which i played around with a bit more which like you know we could do this show on that basically but instead of seeing us you'll just see little avatars like moving like little animating the lips of the avatars move yeah oh yeah like animal crossing or something kind of into this yeah maybe we should try it let's do that next week i'm kind of into it that could be a thing um i started taking klonopin the other day and i cannot recommend it enough i intend to take it for the rest of my life how did the only thing get it what's happening how'd you even get a prescription for that i feel like oh i'm sure things got a guy i just called my doctor and i was like it's time it's time because i hadn't been taking anything for a long time other than psychedelics
and then i was like let's get it going and so just run its course i don't think microdosing unless you're some sort of jedi i don't think it really works in uh in times when the world is is horrible i think it's good i think it's good otherwise but i mean because i even talked to like
the people that got me the micro dos things and they were like oh yeah this is [ __ ] horrible
so finally i was like all right i'm going back and uh but the only thing about you can't drink on klonopin you're not supposed to so yeah uh all i was saying no one is running through thumbs up the number one coca-cola substitute of india faster than i am i made the mistake of uh the only time i ever took a xanax i took a xanax while i was drinking and uh you i i right afterwards that i could have died from that and it felt like it felt like i almost died that's what i read about klonopin yeah gotta be really careful though my mother once accidentally took klonopin and drank two glasses of wine and she was a delight all depends on she did die i should say but it was not for many years later only unrelated we think we think it was unrelated however however um anyway i digress um
so if if if what i say i do have a call online if you want to get that out of the way oh let's take it sure oh why are you there hey fine folks howdy how does the world find you today oh so great how are you doing i should say i meant to say this at the top of the call there no self-promotion in any phone calls tonight or we'll have technical difficulties no self-promotion okay can i talk about an idea i have
we'll take it as it comes okay uh so last week i uh called and i was complaining about uh like ticketmaster and all those ticket agencies that insert themselves between uh our audiences and our performers and take a huge chunk of cash and add nothing to it yeah so i've been thinking about how to fix that and i think i have an idea uh what we do is uh venues have an app that creates a cryptocurrency that has the value of the seat and the seat itself and the time stamped into it
allowing cut out all the middlemen and also allowing a patron to have a continued relationship with the venue through that cryptocurrency
it's a lot of work so you that's like this that's like in in football where they have the personal seat licenses where like you own the seat for that event right yeah and then you could get a ticket and sell it to somebody else so you're just cutting out yeah so you're just looking to replace the cash grabber i think right yeah yeah exactly and charge like a super low fee like a dollar per transaction so if you have five seats it's still just one dollar if you have an entire school it's just one dollar and uh well that's how it starts right now and then the next thing there's really easy to make cryptocurrency so and the value of it is stamped to the value of the show dare i ask how do you make cryptocurrency it's really easy it's just uh it's just a blockchain you have to have a mustache it just takes the uh the will to put it in there like a thin mustache and it's freakishly secure so that that's my big idea for the week i i don't want to do any self motion but i want to put it out there and let the universe know that if anybody else uh wants to uh benefit the world uh get hold of me he's open source i like this i mean i don't understand any of it but i like it i i can put these like simple basically they they make a little uh ticket but sort of a ticket it's digital information and uh there's no scalping there's no second-hand market and it's direct relationship between the venue and the patron
you know what i think this is how i remember
way back in time
and maybe ticketmaster was involved then i just don't know a little band called zz top came through town the year was
it would have been like the after burner tour so it was after eliminator i guess it would have been like 85 or something several months before zz top was coming to cleveland months
they said in the paper or somewhere hey zz tops come into town tickets go on sale whatever day it was and we would get our moms to drive us down to not the venue because the venue was like way out in the woods drive us to like another venue and you would just wait in line some people had been sleeping out waiting but we got there really early and then we just bought zz top tickets and a story why don't we just do it about it directly from the venue yeah they're simple anymore there wasn't a middleman and there wasn't anybody asserting themselves because what they're doing right now is like a ticket hub will go out and and they'll sell you a seat that they do not own and then they will try to get you that seat at a markup and if they can't get you that seat they'll conveniently have another seat that they can give you for the same price and it's it's a complete scam yeah so and i want to have that that valuable patron money to go to the venues and not to uh somebody in the middle who adds nothing to the uh equation we used to have to go to like uh anxiety and strife like a model sporting goods that's where we would get tickets like they'd have like a little too easy the model anything what would fukazi do well fugazi you just go and you pay
i don't know if you could buy fugazi tickets ahead of time i forget i wouldn't think so but i saw fugazi many times and it all worked out
at all now what i do is i rely on my z-list celebrity and then what i do is i say uh i'm dave hill very famous uh gonna come down to your venue tonight and see the show and let me in please make sure there's drink tickets and i do the same thing i just say um i'm dave hill's friend can you please give me what i want dave hill's producer works you got to go with that that's all it takes that's all it takes proximity step up on that what i do is as a uh as a youtube stagehand as i see the concerts that i want to see and then i go and work it and then i get paid to see the show and work with the artists well that's the that's the greatest thing i usually get a free t-shirt out of it too that's the sweet spot yeah come on i mean that's how i got to meet willie nelson the guitar trigger see did you did you turn the screws on them for the free t-shirt they just gave you the free t-shirt they just give me the free t-shirt though they'll often have cars they now uh kind of color code them that way they can tell which departments uh just giving the shirts out because someone once gave me a shirt that said poison unskinny bop tour crew i saw that tour and i think uh oh man you did i think i probably saw that tour too i uh who's the opener at least over here
literally adjusting things but downtown what are your guys's first big rock shows i got to see stevie wonder when i was 12 and i got to see metallica when i was 15. i saw ringo's star when i was six ooh nice kiss one
hot in the shade tour not so hot in the shade that did they have like a sphinx on to the stage and the sphinx yeah i've told this story many times but the zz top tour that i saw the one where we just went at our mothers drive us down get the tickets the zz top they come on well the lights go up and then there's a big sphinx on stage and it's in the sphinx is wearing sunglasses as you'd expect and there's a big white mound on the stage covering all the gear right and then there's a huge snorting sound in the big pile essentially the sphinx snorted a massive pile of cocaine to reveal all of zz tops equipment and then zz top just started rocking out and everyone in attendance was like welp that's how you start a concert isn't it that's a good good sign for what's to come yeah no it was relentless sorry about the early zzz top before they were known as easytop in fact they were one of two touring bands that claim to be the zombies no this is not true okay we gotta this is one of them in fact when they were asked why they didn't have their supporters they would always say that they were in jail or that they got this isn't true this is an apocrypha
all right well thank you very much elvira see you man all right i appreciate you fine folks keep up having dinner good night thank you you too and i like your idea um that's not true zz top is never pretending to be the zombies sound pretty confident about that i'm gonna look it up i've never heard possible zz top zombies
do you ever hear the rumor that of the door is almost reformed but the pop is their singer i feel like i did i can't [ __ ] on that too that one might actually be true though that could be true the doors with iggy pop yeah like they were gonna make a new doraz album same band minus jim morrison and then this would have been further back in the day right not like in the middle like shortly after morrison died yeah yeah that sounds something is coming up
i'm i'm i'm looking to sub z top zombies we're really uh the true stories why something is coming up i'll give it to him hmm why two members of zz top pretended to be the zombies so well it's two members of zz top that's not necessarily okay yeah all right so all right we're saying
already broken up
do what you gotta do all right so there it is uh paul without apologies tell byra even though i call [ __ ] on his general claim in general there's something there because it sounds like he dragged billy gibbons into it
and i'm i resent that yeah not cool man
one of the first things i'm gonna do after the plague
is have a summit with billy gibbons oh man that'd be exciting i can feel it does he know
no i mean
i feel like he can sense it right i know several people who are friends with billy gibbons
several i can go through my phone and i can just go right down he's friends with billy gibbons she's friends with billy gibbons right down the list one degree of separation just stands to reason that eventually me and gibbons it's gonna be dave and gibbons time for gibbons and dave time gibbons and hill it has a good ring to it together at last yeah i i feel good about it
i'm trying to think what other goals i have for after the pandemic is over
did you have any specific goals when it started like oh i'm here like everybody started making banana bread at the beginning of this because you're like i'm gonna figure this out i know you're doing your art and yeah doing the artwork was never a goal that was sort of accidental so like [ __ ] here i am what do i do um i just started doing it because i forget why i think i bought went to the flea market and just started buying [ __ ] and just started painting it just to uh just for some a fun activity i'm always looking for good times so it did that um just sort of a daytime activity never a nighttime activity um
i want to bake bread i don't know if it's too late in the pandemic to bake bread have you guys baked any breads nah my wife's been doing that i haven't baked any myself not like a loaf of bread no made like some pepperoni bread i would see that sounds fun oh yeah it's easy it's great recipe sure i'll sure also i think you just make bread and you throw pepperoni into the dough no you don't even have to make it just get it from the pizza place they'll send you they'll sell you like the ball of dough roll it out fold some [ __ ] in there i never thought to buy dough from a pizza place come on man you can buy dope yeah did they give you a hard time about it new york if the guy's an [ __ ] but i mean usually no they might say oh i only got so many balls of dough to make for the whole night and i'm like well you just take care of one now yeah you get to go home that much quicker that's nice it's a good time i i now that i'm not as panicked at the grocery store even though i'm starting to get panicked again with the new variants that are coming to kill us before i was like too anxious to look for bread ingredients but i do know how to make when i when i worked at a homeless shelter they would give me money to they'd be like go go well you're supposed to make a massive sheet cake on weekends right like a massive like the size of you know those old like uh like electric football games from like the 70s where it was like yeah do you know what i'm talking about and it was a cake that size roughly and it was this big sheet cake and um and then it was really horrible the mix they had so i would go to the grocery store and buy i'd make i'd buy like carrot cake banana bread and then every imaginable ingredient that you could then throw into that stuff like i'd get carrots shavings walnuts uh raisins basically anything you could pass the chocolate chips whatever you could and i would put it in and i'd make one of those big
like uh little little rascals cakes that was just like like breathing yeah with just like couldn't contain itself and so anytime i would walk into the homeless shelter everyone would freak out because they'd be like shit's gonna happen tonight dave's gonna make a [ __ ] of a cake that's everybody new that's a lot to put like you were expected to make the cake or did you say i'm gonna make did you volunteer it no i was volunteered it i was i was pumped to do it but eventually what would happen was then when i didn't show up and someone else showed up and who did my job the same job then everyone would be like oh you suck you're not gonna make us an awesome cake and there was complaint people complained that they were being shunned because of their lack of cake awesomeness and eventually the home shelter decided that i was no longer allowed to take petty cash to go get the ingredients to make the awesome cake because one day of the uh the sadness it caused when others failed to do it you let you left you you left a mark you touched them dave something yeah all by way of saying i'm thinking of getting back to those cakes maybe i'll go to the grocery store tomorrow and just buy
what you need a bunch of stuff and just see what happens did they have a cake corner at your supermarket
they have dip destination which is my only real concern they must have cake corner i don't think they do for whatever reason the grocery store they just decided to highlight dips they know people want them dip destination someone went the extra mile maybe i'll go tomorrow morning get a pro early um we have our first guest locked and loaded should we bring him i mean he's one of my favorite human beings on earth and i'm not just saying that because he walks among us ladies and gentlemen there he is his audio's connecting his mic is connecting should we take away the call and things so we can all be bigger or that doesn't matter are you hearing me there you are are you hearing me fine yeah we can hear you paul myers how you doing i i should probably turn off the uh the i'm listening to you on the other channel so hold on let me get let me get rid of you on the other channel so oh get get rid of us listener turn down your radio remember that yeah that's one of those things hi i was just watching you guys and and so i wanted to sort of see so i didn't drop in like if it was one of those shows where they they go and we're gonna we're gonna play uh stink mop with our next guest and he doesn't know that the bucket's filled with urine so i always like to listen before i come on oh yeah we were gonna we were gonna play stink mop you notice i said urine that that just shows up how i was raised eh like i didn't say piss that's cl that's pure class you're in that's no piss on me i'm literally um anyway so what you what you guys doing we're uh we were just talking uh pandemic cakes baking and such your hair looks great paul thank you and notice i noticed that my headphones are making my hair look like i'm wearing some kind of weird barrette thing bump it i'm wearing a bumpit um chris you want to get rid of the phone number so we can uh blow ourselves up and really appreciate paul's hair in all its majesty
let's get rid of that block this is wide-angle lenser that's nice the bug eye feels like a beastie boys video from 1993. i guess it does um are you gonna i i have been baking i have actually uh i've learned how to make pizza which i mean sounds like you know sounds like everyone's knew how to make pizza but i i uh literally learned how to make like we get the dough we buy the dough we don't buy it from a pizza place we buy it from trader joe's believe it or not do what you got to do but yeah yeah yes yeah we buy trader joe's and you leave it out on the counter for a while and then uh so it doesn't it's not frozen anymore because it's harder to work when it's frozen and uh and then i yeah and i get like paul myers uses all the organic ingredients you know and we just slice and dice and do the whole thing so it's really cool and what goes on your uh and we'll give you a proper razz and matas intro but first we need to focus on what pizza toppings well my favorite my favorite things are um the best pepperoni sliced pepperoni i can find uh like the best quality uh i buy you know local mushrooms and cut them into thin slices i put uh basil uh from like plucked from the leaf and just throw it on and i use uh olives sliced olives and what's the other thing well tomato sauce although i just i just tried another a pesto one recently that's no tomato it's just a pesto sauce on top and it's uh it's great and uh different cheeses you know like uh i like to use the four cheese blend that you can get also at trader joe's big plug here what are the what are the cheeses what four cheeses are involved um there are uh mozzarella and three other cheeses that are out there today yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean three future draft choices i think cheddar yeah yeah cheddar cheddar might be there they're all white maybe a romano i call i call [ __ ] if cheddars involved yeah that's a dif that's like one of those burger pizzas i only want italian cheeses involved yeah racist astiago asiago i or uh mozzarella parmesan parmesan
romano cheese that's a cheese yeah you can go provolone a little bit
you know one of those bald bald mozzarella is that called buffalo or something like that or anyway yeah cut it up into coins that's the one with the pesto i did okay so i made a pesto base and then i cut this thing into like coins so they're like uh flat you know little flat slices of them yeah and then uh that sounds that melts i know it melts in real nice it's it's uh it's good can i actually think about this no no we need to talk about it and then then we'll we'll get to more uh you know bullet point bio-type things but i want to say backing it up a bit i find that parmesan cheese when added to a pizza
makes it suck and it enrages me because i'm thinking about it i've gotten pizzas here out here first of all i was back in new york i was home in new york for a bit and i ate 10 slices of pizza in 10 days
as many as four in one day on one of the yeah um because i was like just you know when you know i had had to be done so but here in ohio where pizza is just uh the wild wild west you would think they'd have it down there's places here in ohio there's a there's a venue called the beach design ballroom great venue and across from the street across the street there's like a stone oven pizza place and everyone's like oh that it's great and so i went over there and i had a pizza and i said i don't want to be the guy to tell you that your pizza place that you're raving about is uh it sucks but that pizza's in it it's inedible and everyone was like taking umbrage at me and i was like it's horrible they would be out of business before noon in new york city it's they should not be allowed to operate ovens um anyway wishing them the best even so but i've gotten a couple pieces out here and it shows up and you get like a margarita pizza and then they take the liberty of adding parmesan cheese to it which is not an ingredient a margarita pizza no and it it sullies the whole thing if you like like grated parmesan i i i it would be weird if they put it on for me but i like it no yeah you can mix it in with the cheeses as they cook you don't have i don't mean like you you're not putting it on a cooked slice of pizza but you kind of mix the parmesan into the mozzarella no i say [ __ ] off if you do that that's all right you know that's harsh dude what's that harsh no it's harsh but i'm just saying parmesan cheese is the cheese that uh it's an elective process it should never be just added it's opt-in yeah 100 yeah exactly all right now that we got that out of the way i'm glad we got that out of the way and oh and we'll come back to it with with doubled energy let's just loop back to that later loop back to it let's lens yeah i'll pencil it in and we'll loop back to it but um paul myers you have uh uh you're you're in the bay area i don't want to give exact coordinates because i don't want you to be murdered is this a drone strike i'm at the east bay i'm in the east bay which is uh this much i can say this much i'm above oakland and just on the cusp of berkeley but not in berkeley so i mean it'll take you hours to find me so there you go but i will find you making a mistake yeah and you have you have an excellent podcast uh it's a monstrous podcast it's it's it's a record store day podcast thank you i'd say it's the uh can we say it let's say it's one of the music podcasts it's definitely one of the music when i upload every week when i upload it it says what kind of podcast and i hit music podcast it's a music podcast as opposed to say news uh i do want to thank you our own chris gersberg for uh when we first set this show up and our own dave hill uh a little awkward on the dave hill one i'll tell you in a second uh but chris gersberg was very very helpful to me in uh i had never i had never done a podcast before so i i knew how to talk on the on the thing you know you just aim your voice at the thing but then what i didn't know was all that crazy stuff that getting it up to the servers and getting it you know getting it all mixed down and all that stuff and so i gave myself a crash course and i hit about three producers and chris gerspec was very helpful in uh in giving me literally the things to know which was uh so thank you chris oh it's okay i was making it all up as i went along as it turns out you were your guesses were all correct sweet and uh and i want to thank dave hill this is the awkward part dave dave and i did a a trial episode that uh actually could have been an episode but there was there was some i think you were using uh uh one of those it was like a really tinny sound and we were kind of we weren't i kind of didn't know what the show was yet so i was kind of asking you vague questions that went off into places that i i know we could have done a better show so i kept thinking we'll recut it we'll recut it and then weeks went by and then we kind of missed that first window here's one yeah but but my empty promise to you my shallow hollow empty promise to you is that we'll do another one uh because uh so many great dave hill things we didn't talk about and um and and you uh and you i listen to your stuff and i know your stuff and i i uh i don't want you to think yes you're one of the great you're a hall of famer and uh and of course my hours of experience training as a guest on your various podcasts sure led me to how to do it and so so i i in all sincerity dave i we will we will we'll do it again and uh i don't know it sounds like harry chapin no but you know you and i were talking about this the other day is now like your podcast is too successful that's not true and it's like it you have elvis costello you have all these just uh you did get quest love i mean and the quest love so there's quest love and dave hill and i know i know they're at last that's the same but elvis costello is definitely above all of us so and i had nick lowe in the first year but that was a phoner so but that that was kind of interesting i mean nick lowe i've met nick lowe not to brag i've met quest love not to brag i've met paul myers have you met dave have you ever met john oliver of course i've met john oliver no i just wondered because sometimes when people write the exciting theme song to a tv show that i love and listen to every week and go that's my friend dave hill uh sometimes they actually mailed it in like they recorded it in their studio sent it in by dropbox or we transfer i'm not naming names yeah yeah hightown whatever or what i used to call wet transfer for years i thought it was called wet transfer oh you stick oh no i mean it's certainly one of my favorite film titles uh in the video what transfer what transferred to actually answers a lot of the what what transfer that's wasn't that the secret that was the wet trance [ __ ] busts ii wet transfer the manhattan wet transfer that was that was it was a an acapella vocal group that have uh uh communal sex it's it's a kind of like it's like it's writes itself it it literally just wrote itself i think it takes place on the upper west side takes place and that that's the name it has it wouldn't cross town bus 86 it was called manhattan transfer anyway but i digress i think we went from a serious thing to a thing also dave hill has a story in uh an upcoming literary anthology that i'm not necessarily plugging no no you have to plug it because i wanted to play with that it's a book called go further that rare bird are putting out um uh it's the sequel to a book called go all the way which was a collection of literary stories about power pop and uh the what i call the much maligned and misunderstood genre sub-genre of powerpop and uh loosely based on that so it goes off in tangents and we get different writers the first edition had like michael chabon i think we've lost oh there's a picture of it right there yeah with the knack yeah we chose the knack out of all the i mean this is what's going to happen people are going to think it's a book about the knack and this happens every time the last book had a picture of bad finger on the cover and people thought it was a book about badfinger but um that picture is a really awesome picture because it shows the excitement and energy of powerpuff and uh that that would figure and the drummer's name i can't remember yeah well i'm supposed to know that stuff but uh the drummer's he was the handsome one in the band not to take anything away from anyone else yeah and you know who's the one that's on twitter who's really really cool is it uh from the knack yeah there's a guy on twitter uh is it avair is that his name oh shoot i don't know i gotta say i'm a little bit uh embarrassed that i'm blanking on on stuff about the knack but um i knew doug feiger's name of course and his brother was the top uh the top uh controversial lawyer in michigan for years really jeffrey feiger represented uh kevorkian i think anyway oh wow yeah yeah long story there but uh but you wrote a story that is really great sort of about glam and power pop and stuff like that and it's very dave hell and i was really honored and a lot of people say it's the best thing in the book it is it actually opens the book you know yeah it opens the book that's right it opens the book but that's a story called glitter and glue which is good oh now i'm remembering what it's about why because i was like it's about glam then i was like nope i remember well it's kind of about glam it's kind of about yeah we'll let the readers find out what it's about we'll let the readers find out but it has your inimitable and i tried to emit it and it's not imitable it's in your inimitable style and uh it's a little bit a little bit reverent towards rock and roll and a little bit whatever the opposite of reverend is and i like that no one will never know the place you live man the place you live that no i walk the line yeah the valley lodge uh painted doll everything in the middle lots of dangerous snakes in the middle it's the whole the dave hill vibe sure sure yeah so there so that's and this is all sincere this isn't my hollywood praise this is the real praise no no that's the second half of the show so i'm really excited that you're in that and uh we've got a lot of people in that book that are like ira robbins who was the uh editor and i think co-founder or maybe founder of trouser press magazine sure writes a story cause he's one of the first guys to write about power pop in the 70s and so he writes a story i and i was kind of proud because i asked him to do this which i said why don't you go back to your 1978 story you wrote about powerpop and see how much of it you'd still hold up and he was great he wrote the story about revisiting you know like i think in 1978 he he predicted that kiss would be one of the big power pop bands and he kind of says well i was wrong but uh but he also there's a there's a thing about kiss that they they actually paul stanley especially has elements of power pop in his thing and he's sure he's raspberries fan so 100 i could see that and of course we dodged a huge bullet on the raspberries i mean naming our first book go all the way right as eric carmen was freaking out uh that was that yeah oh eric where are carmen it was embarrassing can i tell you the story we get eric carmel so we i get we named it but go all the way because that was the name for years i always talk all the way was the one of the great archetypal pop power pop songs and and it's like six songs in one and i remember thinking it's such a great go all the way such a the name is so it's so about the urgency of now and all that stuff and all that and um and then as the book's about to go to press i see that uh eric carman's on twitter and i sort of just think i'll friend him or i'll tag him and he's like oh cool you named your book and i said yeah yeah yeah and i followed him back and then i was just starting the podcast up i think and i was trying to figure out what to do and i thought hey i'll get eric carmen we'll talk about the raspberries it'll be really cool and then someone tagged me and said hey paul myers do you know that did you have you seen what eric carman's tweeting and it was like i hadn't even considered that he'd gone mental are we allowed to say that yeah yeah yeah and no he's fully uh on the wrong side he's gone the full manga man and it was like the offensive kind like not just like not just like i like the president not just i like the president and blah blah blah not just the i'm a [ __ ] who likes trump it was like naming like calling out races and things like that it was heavy no he's a horrible uh the capital uh he may have been there that would have been funny if the fur head guy was standing right beside eric carmen but they both have the same size hair haircut yeah no eric yeah eric carmen it's a real uh
but you know anyway i mean he's not he's not in this book
uh it's all right i don't mind deleting throwing out all my raspberries records when when you have big star who cares but i don't want to i don't want to punish wally bryson you know like for you know the the other guy from the raspberries i mean i have it on fairly good authority that wally bryson already hated eric carmen anyway there you go that's just that's cleveland street gossip it appears that eric carmen is no longer on twitter he's been banned really i thought chris i thought you were about to say eric carmen has joined the chat yeah we have a surprise i have him in the waiting room this was a whole elaborate set up crazy this is your life paul yeah yeah yeah we have uh marjorie taylor green here wants to write a story about power pop oh my gosh lauren beaubert is a she writes about uh loving bad finger anyway uh but anyway anyway so that's so book the book's called go further in the new one and it's you pre-order it from rare bird and um and when is it when is it available to me you know uh i i'm that guy now who doesn't know exactly but it's may they tell me it's in may sometime what may i mean is arguably the power of pop month if i dare to say so yeah i think because of uh uh uh phil may of the pretty things and uh brian may of queen right so that's isn't that sure traditionally what you do right yeah sure anyway so it's good and there's a lot of cool stories in there and uh i wrote about uh why la i wrote a story about called uh what's called now echoes through the canyon or something like that it's uh oh it's called los anglophiles and it's about why so many uh of the contemporary la pop musicians sort of end up either playing with uh british legends like uh like the guys who play behind joey mullen's bad finger or denny lane they're a lot of the same guys and and you know then also darian and all those guys from the wonder mints playing uh he played with the zombies and there's this whole thing about how the british the british weren't we just talking about the zombies second reference of the night really that's where it goes do they make pizza also is that what's the deal they they have a uh this uh asiago cheese pizza um rod argent no uh elvira one of our earlier callers arguably i think the only early caller uh was talking about azizy top pretending to be the zombies a whole other thing there was some grain of truth to it but um i digress and now i'm not but here we are um before i forget i want to say though that so last night i watched the season premiere late uh last week tonight with john oliver and uh and it's true every time i hear the beginning of of the valley watch song go i always i it's a i'm excited because the john oliver show's about to start but also it's such a great it's such a great uh inviting riff and and it's such a great moment so i just uh i i do i do get very uh i get friend proud you know that thing was like oh my friend that's my friend i know i'm kind of pathetic that way but you know maybe maybe i should just uh be myself and no please i love it uh but yeah i do i always yeah i always i was i my wife's usually there so i usually go that's dave that's dave no i love you know every year i have a panic because you know in the lead up to the new season there was there's always like a promo for the new season and there's this has happened a few times where there's some other music in the promo and i'm like well what is that music that's not my song and i get in this panic that they they've decided not to use it shows do that sometimes they do switch theme songs yeah thanks for making me feel better no no and it's hungry eyes by eric carmen and that's all can you like your imagine hungry eyes
they used to do that i don't think they really do that anymore though i feel like that changed things like change up the theme song like i i think the go will be the thing leave it
in on it but um anyways it happens and then i'll spend it i'll spend a couple months in a you know in a mild panic thinking well one of the things they could do is they could switch it to a string quartet version where you would still get paid as the writer but it wouldn't be your master anymore so it'd be like but i could hear like a nice four-part like you know no i don't like this i don't like this idea at all
no see that's yeah you can't for the manhattan transfer singing it in four-part harmony no can't be done the the riff is too iconic it's just too iconic it can't it really is it is it is such a great that thing with the open spring hitting the other string and like i mean i don't want to get technical on anyone but there's another it's simple simple yet really difficult people always post videos of themselves trying to play it they get it wrong hey can i take you uh take you down the road with something about this please you know okay do you know a song called uh tenderness by general public yes has anyone ever pointed out that you can sort of sing there's that that'll like a don't
oh totally i sort of feel like you could do a medley of go and then run into tenderness by general public i don't know it's it's and those are those aren't plagiarisms i'm not saying that that's a thing i'm saying it's more like my brain does this thing where it files a certain groove or a certain approach to where the where the vocal falls in the chord and all that stuff again i'm not very technical um well um no that's how i him it's in public i don't yeah yeah no no no that's definitely like i think we not uh before the prior but when it was done we were like oh yeah oh yeah well and taking it further i think there's about three valley lodge songs because my friend jody was saying her husband learned how to play go and so i said oh well here's a little gift if he knows how to play go he can play this song and this song because it's all the same beat pretty much i won't say what the other songs are they're not the exact same beats they're just very similar well that's right that's that's the thing i've been meaning to tell you uh so it's it's uh so we're good now roger this is a state of ranking roger's going to come after me exactly we have do we have a call on hold on i do yeah we got jimmy jimmy's here oh jimmy from carnegie jimmy there yeah hey guys how you doing good jimmy welcome welcome back thanks man hey dave hey chris hey jimmy hey jimmy how are you hey you sound you sound great
what's happening speaking of klonopin i uh took my nightly jokes
um forgive me though but but anyway i not to beat a dead horse or anything but um just go easy on it i i heard earlier in the show that you were going to get a prescription day if you just don't speed with it you know i have a prescription and i'm loving it all right good though i don't i don't want to keep just i know by how it's prescribed it's one of the uh slowest acting benzos but it's one of the most longer acting benzos also so um i don't think it'll be a long-term uh expedition for me um good uh good i think it'll just be a little i think um
you know it's is it is it existential angst or is it the political harder on the outside i just think i needed mixed in i i think i needed to just uh bring it down before i brought it back up again level out period oh no
but um no but yeah people people have said that it's that it can be very addictive but um it gives me a bit of a headache so i don't i think for that reason alone it's nothing i want to make a habit of but um yeah also really and now there was an interview uh by i think a southern asian woman
forget what the name of the periodical or the whatever it was it was in but you mentioned that you were reading uh jim thompson's uh pop 1280 oh yeah yeah i mean i'm not even positive how to read that title it's definitely you know possible abbreviation for population i think that's how you read it yeah but yeah but uh he did a lot of screenwriting for kubrick well i think only two things maybe there was more but they weren't even they didn't even get out of the gate but uh two of kubrick's earliest films the killer uh i think it was the killers and uh pairs of glory uh were he had a screenwriting role thompson and yeah i read pop 1280 and the killer within me or inside
hey you know jimmy i'd i hate to interrupt you and um call you off the topic but does anyone has anyone has ever heard you call into the show before is well aware you have the voice of an angel and it seems just always seems like it would be i would be remiss uh not i again i hate to interrupt you but i'd be remiss not to get at least a few bars of something out of you as long as we we haven't online here is there any chance you can sing a little something for us before we bring uh uh mike adams on yeah yeah let me just let me just stand up so i have some more yeah yeah let it breathe by all means a little bit a little okay i'm going to put the phone out a little bit
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ah what happened [ __ ] that was me i was gonna turn it up and i hit the i hated that oh hit the switch jimmy i'm sorry if you're out there please feel free to call back uh we really gotta get these phones lines fixed i like the thought um not all night though let's um
paul myers yeah oh you haven't finished that sorry mood i know i was waiting to come in with my part i was going to be like
it would have been beautiful but unfortunately our phone lines are not up to task um speaking of power pop yeah yeah we have a great um are you familiar with mike adams that is honest weight or just mike adams says we'll call him tonight i should be i should be but i yeah you're gonna be a huge fan not ringing a bell you're gonna be a huge fan and i was i hear he's on his way he's uh he walks among us uh is who who's in charge to hit the button to have mike join us now there he is there he is
mike adams mike you're there i think i'm here hold on a second i'm i i think i'm here can you guys hear me okay we can hear you mike adams of course hi hi mike adams bloomington indiana uh-huh that's right great thanks you too yeah i've been i've been watching since eight o'clock since eight o'clock yeah so i'm up to speed it's good you're up to speed what is that one of those ex you guys both have good microphones what is that one of those sm sevens you guys all have sm sevens yes this is the best sounding episode we've done i think i have an sm7b i hope is this sounding okay to you i'm gonna get one i'm gonna buy one do it dave yeah
dead sounds really good on the mic oh thank you paul do you have one of those too chris nah this is a usb garbage garbage i'm on the usb as well i gotta get this sm7 you can do it people can hear me sultry i'll probably book more voice over auditions that way right that's the problem i i have this windscreen that i got for singing and i've been using it for the podcast and then i realized later like you don't really need them with this thing because it's got like a windscreen on it and it's it's already maybe it was chris gersberg who told me the things kind of already kind of it handles sound so it's fine yeah it's ready for it and everyone who listens and watches this show is thinking why is he talking about microphones it's like well if i can dig our ditch further uh do you have it does it hook up to a usb yeah it's uh it goes into a focusrite scarlett uh usb converter the red one that oh okay what i like to call the workhorse of the podcast industry okay i just wanted to make sure we alienated as much people as possible with our microphone talk by dragging it into interface and we've succeeded um there you go and with that mike mike you're still there i'm right here yeah thanks i'm going through it's an out mine's an outdated uh mackie onyx uh 16 channel it's yeah oh my god vintage vintage yeah that's right that's right nice people are just abusing themselves listening to this they're just saucy now you're you're in bloomington indiana right now right that's correct yeah bloomington how's it going out there it's i'm in the middle of a blizzard uh i'm looking you guys are getting a blizzard too we're getting dumped on yeah it's supposed to stop at nine though i heard but it hasn't we're supposed to get about 12 inches i think nice oh wow i don't know school's closed works closed yeah man oh man yeah and paul myers you're out there warming up smell like you have no sleep yes yes rising up into the air there i think it's colitis is
warm smell of colitis rising up through the pipes oh damn what no no what are kolitas no one knows warm smell of colitis i think it's it's a type of athletic footwear right it's in it see cletus
people quote that lyric like they know you know they they go oh it's one of the best lines man it's with a c not a p it's it's co it's c-o-l-i-t-a-s is it not is it not kalita warm smell of colitis yeah i think it has no one knows is it is it marijuana everything is marijuana really isn't it in the 70s isn't everything like a sweet leaf or something like one of those like you'd think but i could just see don henley sitting down and going i'm going to put kalitas in a song man get them talking cletus when i was in high school there was a battle of the bands for all the you know teens and uh sure the rival band to my band at the at the battle uh covered in hotel california but the uh school administrators barred them from singing it due to the satanic connotations so they had to just do an instrumental jam of hotel california so i still don't know what kalinas are is the point that's equally satanic in the instrumental version i think yeah i would have to think yeah yeah i mean arguably more so it's the forbidden that would be a sick jam
i'm sorry sorry um
mike are you gonna you're gonna play a little something for us tonight right i could if you want me to yeah would you be willing i i would perhaps i mean it can be for many of your releases yeah uh you your most recent that now it's two years old there is no feeling better mm-hmm i'll do one for now when when there it is there it is it's a nice cover oh i like that yeah it's really nice and the vinyl looks great i have a question when you say does it mean there is no feeling better does that mean this is the best feeling or you will never feel uh better is it a negative or a positive title what it is is a rorschach test you know it's kind of up to you i i took it as the positive because that's how i feel when i it's the clown i've told this story before i've told this i i i'm always happy to tell my mike adams origin story because uh it has a happy ending i think at least for as far as i'm concerned he and let me tell me if i'm getting any of this wrong like i'll monitor you you tweeted at me something like dave you're the greatest of all time blah blah blah whatever the usual things that people used to tweet at me when i was on twitter you're the best um and my band is playing and then you sent a link to your music and normally and uh paul myers i'm sure you can i'm mike adams i'm sure anyone listening dez chris can attest statistically speaking when anyone sends you a link to their music statistically speaking that music's going to be very bad would you agree if just a no i'm seeing a random person yeah one hundred percent oh it's here you don't know them and you barely asked if they have any music you mean like yeah so you mean somebody that sort of knows you more than you know them and they go oh entirely unsolicited yeah yeah yeah i in this case i have to admit it's rare that that anything turns up that way that i yeah yeah it's extremely rare that that someone seemingly dropped from outer space that it says here check out my band but i was um i i said i'm gonna check it out and i was like oh my god this might be my new favorite band all within the matter of a few minutes i couldn't believe it it worked and i loved it and then the tables were turned and i started to pursue him
it was like
some sort of you know i don't know movie i don't know but all by way of saying been a huge fan and and and dare i say friend at this point in my life yeah i'd hope so i'd hope you'd say that feels good yeah we've we've we've we've upped the ante and um so i've teed it up now with all of that having been said would you favor us with a song perhaps from the hit album there is no feeling better and i'm very excited for you to play this because i feel paul myers who could still safely be in that category of thinking well this is going to be horrible yeah some clown some geek i'm not i know that's not how you think paul but you know you could just no but see the magic the magic thing is if somebody you respect uh welcomes it in then it's already got the uh what's the word uh yeah it's about it's been vouched for but you you can be like uh you know i don't know dave he's a bit of a loose cannon
he has gambling debts yeah
okay i want to hear mike yeah i'll try one let's see what happens i'm trusting you guys dave as you said we are basically friends at this point if it's sounding bad yeah i feel good about our friendship you have to wave your hands and tell me if it's not sounding great because i'm this is all i'm i'm flying by the seat of my pants over here fair enough it's just a cameo i can see if i yeah there's the seat of your pants no it's right there yeah i forget what this is called um this is from that record though dots and dashes is this one
what's that sound everyone's all about
i think that i heard it loud but you've gotta tell me
i live my life in pieces you pack out yours in code some classic concentration of dots and dashes i don't know don't look now maybe they found a sound if i'm gonna turn it down
you've gotta tell me
cause i live my life in pieces you pack out yours in code some classic concentration of dots and dashes i don't know i live my life in pieces you pack out yours in co some classic concentration of dots and dashes i don't know
of dots and dashes i don't know
yes beautiful rough around the edges but you know no wonderful i have a technical question were we hearing the guitar just ambient from the back like from the from the same microphone that you're singing into i had a second microphone oh yeah and that i was gonna say because and also it kind of had this neat phase shifting that happened that was kind of made it made it psychedelic it was kind of cool good okay it also created more of an intimacy vibe with the lead vocal because it wasn't phase shifting i i i could explain this my producer notes later i'm with you i'm right there that's cool we'll run a flange over it and then take off 20k at the top and it'll be great yeah yeah yeah that sounds great man i love that i i think your voice carries the whole thing too it's it's uh it's really about the it centers on the vocal which is the best so there you go i really appreciate that is this is this that show where we put a big x above my name i know
this is excellent hey can i uh can i tell a quick story dave since yeah please turn turn up your mic a little bit if you can sorry is that better is that better can you hear that better yeah a little more heat bring it how's that that's really up now oh that's hot that's nice okay good uh paul i was excited when dave told me you were gonna be on the show tonight as well oh uh just because i have a little small world story to tell you oh um uh two christmases ago i was at my mother-in-law's house uh in evansville indiana that area uh sure i know it happens though yeah it's a neat little i used to summer in evansville oh my my friend carl lives there as you know okay yeah and that's why that's why i bring this up because i was uh everyone had gone to bed i stayed up late and i was reading one dumb guy and uh you quote carl in the book carl caffarelli carl r knighter oh carl i knew her oh yeah right and uh he was down the street from me at the time he had done he did an interview that i listened to with kevin mcdonald yes yeah and so i texted him and was like hey i'm in the same town as you reading a book that's not about you but you're in it and it was just this funny thing and i know carl because it's dave so it's this nice that's awesome yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh yeah and that yeah that kids in the hall book um was so off-brand for me because i am a music guy and i wrote books about music but then i was a huge comedy fan for many years to i still am and uh realized that i knew a lot about comedy i guess enough to you know and i'd lived sort of around the kids in the hall their entire career so that's how i ended up writing a book about comedy and as a result of that i'm actually writing a book about john candy now so it's like great oh nice it's it's it's tough going i'll tell you you know the um i can't wait there's not enough i shouldn't talk about this but it seems like uh shit's creek being such a very popular show has made it uh almost impossible to get an interview with anyone associated with shit's creek but uh which john candy knew many of the people yeah obviously you know so but i i'm sure they'll come around i'm sure they'll come around anyway yeah that's going to come out next year and um i can't wait to can't wait to basically have it done uh because it's i'm at that place where you're living with it now and but but thanks for thanks for the uh reading one dumb guy oh i loved it i thought it was so great thank you thank you oh yeah it's a great book thank you i really appreciate that it was it made me happy to write something different from not music you know that's another the listener for the listener keeping track that's another book from paul you can get in addition to go further coming out may sometime and maybe indeterminate yeah indeterminate it it it'll come out and uh anyway but thank you mike i don't want to take i don't take away from your lovely comment and uh thank carl again that was really nice that he did that interview with uh kevin mcdonald of the kids in the hall who lives in in winnipeg hey you knew that too yeah yeah i just talked to him he i was just talking to him a bit of a bit of trivia i mean it's not it's not a secret i'm not pronounced there's burton cummings who i don't he might be in winnipeg again uh john k sampson from the weaker dance is one of my favorite songwriters he lives in winnipeg or lived in winnipeg i don't know if he still is burton cummings um if we can just go hard uh and where are the canadians living he lives in moose jaw saskatchewan is that right britain cummings i know this because he yeah i mean why wouldn't you for starters but uh because i've lost many an in moose jaw um you're googling it aren't you yeah i am i can't i i he there was some believe i've been to i mean he mentions it in one of his songs so there was something something happened you know it as as always the case with celebrities there was a construction issue someone tried to build something that you know became an inconvenience to burton cummings and he he said hey uh she's come undone and then you know it just started rattling off all the other hits and uh there we have it not having it he's not having it something something like that i don't know if he brought up she's come undone
she's the big operatic finish she's
like he does that
yes so do we have time because because we we do we do end uh aggressively at 9 30 eastern standard time um mike would you be willing to favor us with a song and then we'll uh give our official goodbyes yeah sure to each other and to the world
ah thanks for having me if we hit the hit the mark thank you and thanks to paul myers as well and then we'll get the plugs in and um we'll we'll pin down where burton cummings lives that's right oh that's easy top thing is half true by the way it's half true yeah well you know it's not that it was zz top doing it but it was two-thirds of zz top pretending to be the zombies yes this is this is true but but i took umbrage because it was suggested that billy gibbons was involved and he was not i had no clue about it yeah no part of it no part yeah okay uh thanks again dave here's another one thank you
with no direction
and only what i'd brought along
which i was given
what if i'd been wonderful the love what if i was happy just to get by what if i'd been wonderful love
was that an arrow
i think it was a poison dart it could have missed us
but what if i'd been wonderful love what if i was happy just to get by what if i'd been
wonderful
what if i'd been wonderful love what if i was happy just to get by what if i'd been wonderful
thanks again fellers
mike adams where can people uh find you um without showing up outside your home yeah please don't do that the easiest way is mike adams dot info perfect that'll direct you to all the stuff where the action is and the jams the non-stop jams that's right
and paul myers go farther out sometime in may go further go further you say you know that's the canadian pronunciation it's fine if i say tomato and you say tomato then we're both saying tomato um i'm sorry i kept saying go farther thank you i don't know why it's go further but i guess when you've gone all the way so uh and then yeah the other thing is that yeah that one dumb guy book is still out there doing the lord's work and um and uh yeah you know you can find me on p-u-l-m-y-e-a-r-s on twitter they'll pull my ears but uh but you knew that and i'm sorry to rub it in that you're not on twitter but the dave dave hill good time hour proudly no i uh twitter i think everyone should delete twitter there you go and i i i'm strangely still on facebook but i don't know why instagram i'm on instagram too so the grams look at me on all the socials anyway thanks for having me thanks for coming on thank you thanks both of you guys and um if there is a go even further book which i recommend go like just go past the last yeah go past the further go even further than you had anticipated at this rate we will at this rate we will it seems like there's a lot of people writing stories about this music you gotta get mike adams on board
yeah do it please um pin me down thank you thank you mike adams thank you paul myers thank you thank you new jersey chicken rancher des thank you boy criminal chris thanks chris thanks for listening thanks to thanks to all who watched listen live in the uh on the youtubes and thanks to everyone listening in the futuristic podcast format that comes out every friday and uh thanks to all of you who listen by maximum fun if you want to support this program go to maximumfun.org slash join and uh there's all sorts of good things there's a pin with my hair it's not my actual hair it's a depiction of my hair drawn by miley mcdonald's that's just one of the things you can get to improve your life all right let's ride on out like a scene from a movie or something i don't really know
are we out can we stay up