Get ready for yet another exciting ninety minutes of The Dave Hill Goodtime Hour as Dave, Dez, and Chris discuss dental work, bullshit miniature food items, rockstar biographies and a bunch of other stuff before welcoming Ryan Burke from the 60 Cycle Hum podcast for some serious #PedalTalk. Recorded live February 22, 2021.
Get ready for yet another exciting ninety minutes of The Dave Hill Goodtime Hour as Dave, Dez, and Chris discuss dental work, bullshit miniature food items, rockstar biographies and a bunch of other stuff before welcoming Ryan Burke from the 60 Cycle Hum podcast for some serious #PedalTalk. Recorded live February 22, 2021.
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nude danuda hello and welcome to the dave hill good time hour or just dave hill good time hour for those of you with on the go lifestyles who don't have time for the um hi how are you i'm adequate thanks so much for asking how are you doing boy criminal chris gershwick i'm doing great you look great uh i i can't help but notice well you showed me earlier you have a twilight zone marathon shirt on yes what is that what does that mean there was a marathon of the show that you watched yeah well not me personally but uh well yeah actually i did this so this is 1997. uh wpix was the channel 11 local station in new york city and every year on new year's day they uh would show the twilight zone just for 24 hours so it's like a t-shirt commemorating this yeah you participated did you have to like save up man oh man for this shirt yeah yeah how do you get this shirt i mean discountcemetery.com they are awesome they have all kinds of cool stuff oh good nice oh good how are you doing there's new jersey chicken rancher dez doing all right had a wisdom tooth taken out the other day ah you did my final wisdom tooth yeah no way why i mean why not it was coming in sideways well it come all the way in it was fully breached or whatever and uh so starting to push up on the rear tooth so it had to go was it causing you great pain not at all no it was complete as i was going into it i said this is the stupidest waste of time i've ever had because i it wasn't bothering me at all but you know it's fascinating he just drilled into it like in two points and he had a hook and he started working that thing like a nail like coming out of a board you know yeah that sounds uh unpleasant am i wrong or did he like i was on the gas you know and and the novocaine and and a cup of coffee so oh i had an eye i had all four taken out in one sitting and like yeah that's exactly what i remember was just not being able to feel anything but the dentist just like like hugging me yeah yeah this wasn't bad yeah so but i got a couple stitches in there now that are still kind of like annoying it's like having like a little piece of bread or something at the end of a meal like stuck back there you know it's it's oh did you have to do like the tea bag thing uh what kind of dentist do you go to oh wait whoa whoa yeah chris if you need to talk you know when the dentist puts his balls into your mouth to stop the bleeding you know chris you know this is a show of subtlety i did have a strange time at the dentist but it wasn't it wasn't quite like that but i it's funny the hygienist she gave me a lot of her personal information about like her entire the last year that she's had her husband passed away and it's been various other things she was just full of information do you ever have anything weird like that where you're like and you can't get away i was the patient there maybe you're like on a plane oh yeah i had well my dentist is my current dentist is the best dentist he plays pretty much deep purple all the time like he just cranks just like stone cold classic rock jams like pretty loud like a surprisingly loud like uh rock and roll vibe yeah but it's just like it seems like he he likes to rock out he's not trying to go he's just like this is what i'm listening to and this is my office yeah and um and i'm very pleased with it and i have a great time there it's right by my apartment um it's right off washington square so you actually can actually look into washington square while i'm getting horrible things done and but one time when i went there this one hygienist who i'd only seen there one time she was cleaning my teeth and she had like fully decked out like a mask on you know like a visor was totally and at one point um what no it started off like during the there should like having you do the questionnaire or whatever and she said um uh oh like what she's like reading what medications i'm on she's like well prozac what's that i was like oh it's an antidepressant and she said yeah these are tough times huh
it was just like what kind of response is that like how little of an understanding of how many things do you have to have that be uh where you're taking the conversation yes you can get awkward there yeah for sure and then she's like um so at one point she's cleaning my teeth and some you know spit or whatever god knows what flew out of my mouth and she just jumped back and said okay we've exchanged fluids do you have hiv oh jesus and i was just like what like not that i i wasn't offended that she thought i had it it was just this i would the circumstances were not we didn't exchange fluids like it was just like a little bit of water or something came out of my mouth and like she's wearing a visor like no she's not exposed in any way and you know she felt a spritz even if i had gushed blood that's not how uh it's transmitted yeah um so i was i thought this woman is just very uh strange to me um i didn't say anything to the dentist yeah i played it cool because i i actually found all of it very entertaining so did i you know like i said i was on the gas so she was probably thinking that i wouldn't remember much of what she was talking about anyway but i got her whole life story tip tip to tale you know oh wow i know everything about her at this point pretty much it was kind of awkward i got i got my wisdom teeth out my sister got her wisdom teeth out this is years ago and um my sister's got hers out on a friday was absolutely miserable bedridden and i got mine out the following monday felt absolutely fine i felt better than than i do now or have ever since and i was ready to go out that night i went to work actually later that night like seven or eight hours later i went and worked for a few hours just to not fall too far behind with the snow coming yeah i felt fine i was just i did not go out because i felt like it would it would have been rubbing into my sister's face had i had i done that um but yeah i'm glad we've covered we've covered a lot of dental procedures yeah important i really i really like i remember as a kid
loving ripping teeth out of my mouth when they were when they were loose and you could kind of like slowly work them out over the course of a few days no they're that there is like an odd uh like i think a lot of people discover that they enjoy pain from like feeling like that kind of like stingy pain from your teeth falling out i loved it i remember a sadness when i when i my last baby tooth came out and i said well that's it that's all that that type of fun is over in this lifetime i've done it it's over
oh what a treat it was but i guess at some point i can just give up on uh my current teeth and um sorry no start ripping those out yeah that's the hope yeah uh we have an incredible guest tonight he's been actually been appeared via zoom a few times uh ryan burke host of 60 cycle home podcast which is yes a guitar gear podcast the challenge herein is i would happily talk only about guitar gear 24 hours a day but um the challenge is we're going to try to not do that because that's alienating we'll talk we'll do it we'll talk about it the number here by the way is
347-474-0260 that's 347-474-0260 um we don't have it this week but we something happened with this youtube channel of ours of mine or whatever that i've had since the dawn of time uh actually that's not true i am i as as with most things on the internet my original youtube channel got taken down why because i like you're banned from multiple social medias i'm literally the only like uh left-wing progressive type liberal uh happy-go-lucky guy who seems to get banned from social media you have to get banned from parlor i've i've never even seen parlor and i have no intention ever look because i'm sure i'll be disgusted um but my first youtube channel i was it was a simpler time years ago and i was doing quite well just tearing up the tube and i made a video where i think it's still on like daily motion or something this video where do you know the movie holy mountain by yodorowski if you don't know you should watch it tonight yeah um but i made this video with some friends where it was my birthday and and i'm about to blow off the cameras like no you have to make a wish and i thought about it and i and then it cuts to this scene from holy mountain but in almost every scene in holy mountain is totally bizarre um in in the best of ways and it was a guy it was a naked old man with cheetahs as his breasts and they were spraying milk on to another guy who is kneeling in front of him like covering him in milk and so it what year is that approximately i think uh holy mountain i think it was like 1971 to something i think john lennon and yoko ono paid for it oh i'm not mistaken i've heard of that then yeah okay but it's an amazing movie uh i used to play a bit to the soundtrack all the time on uh my wfmu show maybe that's where them yeah um but so i cut away to this scene as what i wanted for my birthday as you can imagine very strong video uh it was flagged and my channel was taken down i had to rebuild my whole a whole new youtube channel and then someone at youtube wrote and said hey we really like your stuff we want to help you build your channel this was a simpler time you know uh and i said well you literally just canceled my channel last week and this is my new channel and they're like oh sorry about that anyway hoping to get that story on the moth my point is this channel is not qualified for some cool thing that we'll be able to do super chats and stuff soon but not yet very soon um like next week or something yeah even though i don't fully understand what super chat is but chris is a young person and seems to yeah we can make money mmm sweet sweet money which as a young person i'm all about oh me too i'm thinking of getting in on that money i gotta get some money it's good let's get that gotta get some money gotta get some money i guess i know what it's like being retired from this past year kind of yeah you get the boxed out it's pretty great actually it's not the worst um i eat a lot of nilla wafers what time is it what time does the do you have to be like into something before like the day gets away from you and you get nothing done what's your i you know i'm pretty action-packed i'm like uh i usually get out of bed around like 7 30. whoa turn on the coffee maker like some sort of guy who's starting a day and uh yeah it is coffee the night before you yes it's ready to go you hit the button boom professional move right there it's an advanced move my concern is that when i head back to new york and in new york my routine is totally different i only make use the coffee maker on weekends usually that's more of a weekend fun time thing you get up and go lifestyle in new york in new york i go to the coffee shop and i chat with uh neighborhood folks and then i go to the dog park but here in this tiny finished fishing village i turn on a coffee pot and then i go outside with the dog what will it be when i go out tonight will i start making coffee every day i doubt it anyway that's what i got tracy dunbar mentioned uh milla mini nila wafers are the best and i have to agree the mini ones are really good yeah you know normally i'm not into anything in miniature form because it ruins the ratio yeah um
but uh i do i can i can get behind uh
i can't get behind that yeah frosted mini wheats speaking of mini things that are good frosted mini wheats are really good mini marshmallows very hot chocolate yeah mini marshmallows are good too those the ratio works in your favor too many big marshmallows you get sick real quick but you can put the little ones away with it you know without feeling that impact for a while but you know the thing about when when they do like mini uh mini what's it called
mini chips ahoy were mentioned mini oreos those are all [ __ ] the ratio is off the the biggest is is um mini m m's yeah yeah that's you going too far you're right
they got the snack size candy bars down pretty good though like the ratio of a little fun size snickers is pretty solid it's if you feel like you're getting a just a mouth you know a bite that's it because they did the work right they did they took the time the mini oreo people they just shrunk it down they were like here let's get out of here fast what do we do they kept the the side the thickness of the cookie is the same the thickness of the mystery white let's just call it sugar jizz because that's what it is um is the same and then they've just made it small it's just it's uh horrible we lost chris there i shouldn't i should have never had just had sugar jizz he's uh he crossed the line i suppose i mean i'm trying to watch trying to keep this more of a family show but what is it i don't know did you know oreos are vegan i probably have heard that somewhere before did you know that hydrox predates the oreo i mean i would guess that it would because it's called hydrox because why would anyone call a product that that they wanted someone to put in their mouth intentionally chelsea market they that's where hydrox factory was like that whole building there oh really it's a cookie factory who is thinking like let's what what's a fun name for a cookie that children will love hydrox it sounds like something that like um
you would put in your mouth and leave in your mouth for like 20 minutes at a time in hopes of better oral hygiene which to be fair that cookie would probably do where did chris go do you think when i said sugar juice he got that was it he did that or he tried a system maybe there was like a it wasn't a class move yeah you want to take a quick phone call yeah let's do it let's see if i can
dig myself out of this hole i've created hey hey how do you find folks holding up is this elvira canaveral in minneapolis well i have an immediate answer because i have researched the history of the hydrox cookie and the name comes it's short for hydrogen and oxygen which the founder found as a pure treatment so that's where hydrox came from a pure treatment a pure treatment of what not of fun
because there were the idea of uh cleanliness was very much at the center of pre-packaged foods at that time i like how uh white castle was founded because it was so white and the hamburger was a dirty food but the white castle was very clean and they even used steam to cook the food that sounds really right i could see that making sense interesting i have a very important question for uh dave hill and it's on a subject that we both appreciate and love and that is the uh rockstar autobiographies oh yes big fan and i got three i got three here so it's a holy trilogy and i'm trying to figure out which one in 2021 i should read first second and third and the first book is tasteful news by mr dave hill well let's qualify that what's that
wait you say you're saying you have all three of my books nice oh europe is great thank you but none of those are none of those are none of those are rock autobiographies though oh there's a bit of rock in sort of there's some rock rock this true but i thought you were gonna say like i have uh
the lemmy autobiography i have the whatever the keith richards out of ours which is the best one of all of them richard uh because keith reed's part of it the narrator reads part of it and then johnny theft says his part for part of it and you don't know quite when is wahoo the keith richards autobiography is is the best rock autobiography i don't think any other one can come close uh the filth the dirt uh the motley crew overrated was a great one it was okay it's fun it was fine yeah just like them as a band you know ooh not now oh my gosh no i thought the dirt was good but i didn't i wasn't
i i actually i read uh just to show you how i read basically every rock autobiography i read nikki sixx's the heroine diaries and i thought that was better than the dirt that was all about his uh recovery and everything didn't make a band he named like a record or something with this different band he had a whole thing around that he might have not a completist my favorite my favorite rock writer is probably genesis p orange
that i find interesting um genesis peoria just was uh amazing person psychic tv i was in new york i in 2004 i was at a hold the wall see you shopping a little experimental section and i saw two two cd set of god star they were the d director's cut and i didn't even know it existed i was kind of surprised i went to turn to list the cashier to listen to it because you know it might be two hours of just drills uh but as i turned i brushed the tits of genesis p orange and as if someone's there and i just looked at them and said uh what do you think and they said we're rather fond of it
nice well pay for it and he disappeared like batman i've heard many nice things about them um my friend bob we uh lived in the same apartment building with genesis speaks very fondly yeah
uh um they became a model uh for me to also identify as non-binary as well so which is hence the alpha canaveral yes of course nice well that's a great role model okay so uh which one should i read first oh well you should read them in order read tasteful nudes first
that's what i would do all right and i have a uh i have a non-alienating question for your guest tonight on the subject of guitar gear we shall see well speaking of which let's a good introductory guitar pedal and bass pedal for somebody who is just getting into it okay well we'll we'll ask him that momentarily and because we're going to bring him on now thank you so much alvara all right you have a good one and oh yeah i've also been meditating a lot to pio uh meditating he almost lost a thumb to a guard can you turn the music down a little bit chris i i thought wait dio la almost lost a thumb to a garden gnome yeah he was put in a it was like a 60 pound statue garden gnome on in his garden and it was kind of on a slope and then it slipped down uh um i even have a quote uh i was tr i was in my yard trying to place this garden home on a slope he explained this is a seriously heavy piece of garden ornament probably 60 pounds or so anyway it fell over fell into the shrubbery and then began to slide down towards the bottom of the hill my hand landed on a rock and then the nose landed on it squashing my thumb between the rock and the gnome i just looked at my hand my first thought that flashed my mind was how on earth am i going to make my devil horn signs now that's my trademark well he he prevailed there you go got through it dio yep one of the great thank you elvira later i will talk to you soon
dio dio's one of the i've met many uh many a rocker many a celebrity in my time and i'd have to put uh
put dio up there very high on the list as just a top notch individual um oh shea bones hot lunch dude where there will be a new painted we're going to get working on that i'm looking um
john von braun cole as yes earlier which are better biographies or autobiographies when it comes to rock books i think autobiographies are always better because you get it from the perspective of uh the crazy person yeah and they they yeah of the crazy person in some cases yes and and it's
though i will say i have read like michael azeroth's our band could be your life i thought was great yeah it's a good one um but usually yeah i like to hear it from the person the horse's mouth so to speak i've read a few rock biographies in the last year yeah but even our band can be your life is like the oral history so you're hearing it from the people who lived it this is true speaking of oral histories we have coming up in a few weeks the authors of nothing but a good time which is all about the uh hair hair metal era that's fantastic i'm excited it's an incredible book it's coming out in march but we'll get to that later let's bring our guest on he is ryan burke he's host of co-host of the 60 cycle hum there it is podcast live cast there he is he walks among us am i am i am i here yes you're there i'm here i'm doing it oh look at look at that look at glorious everyone just pedals and guitars oh yeah yeah you're doing it right it's a it's a little embarrassing well elvira my answer is bigma for a uh a pedal for guitar and bass go get a big muff there you go that that is actually the perfect answer yeah i know yeah you know big muff is the only well i'm sure there's variations on the big muff oh yeah there's like three different versions of it yeah and they make a base big muff too don't they yeah no that's it's redundant though that's a money grab i think because the regular big muff does the job i mean if you really want to sound really good skip the bass big muffs get the guitar big muffs go straight for the ukulele big muff then you're oh yes
stay away from the keyboard big muffs they're not as good but the ukulele big mop works oh man i wish that was real there should be a ukulele big muff there should be there should be a muff for every instrument like a chill instrument yeah all instruments there should be a microphone big muff for singing yeah i will say the only thing i had only issue with the big mouth i have is when you step on it it makes a very audible like clinking sound yeah big hollow box yeah yeah i've had so many big muffs and i don't know where they go well like they've just disappeared yeah their timeline was up like i've had right now that was that's what's happening is chris's i'm babysitting for him for right now oh yeah yeah i have i have a couple i think i own three right now but i'm only aware of where two of them are again hoping to tell that story on the moth let's focus
what are you drinking tonight there ryan i'm drinking canadian whiskey from the country of kirkland what it's from it's costco whiskey oh it's probably delicious though isn't it it's really good i like it whiskey business there wow what's what's their beer brand don't they have a beer too i think it's just all kirkland everything's made for them yeah well they they uh they uh there's rumors that like if you get the whiskey then it's made by you know so and so if you get the tequila it's made by so-and-so and they you know it's all you know it's all being bottled by people to make kirkland's not making anything costco's not making anything they're they're just like hey what do you got extra we'll put it in our own bottles yeah they're farming it out exactly i gotta say you ryan host of 60 cycle hum
uh you turned me on to crown royal black oh yeah
i i bought a bottle of that and without going into detail i don't want anyone to be able to you know figure out how i made this happen i basically i know someone who works or for the company that owns crown royal and i said hey can you send me a case of that
nice and they said uh uh that might be that's a bit of a talk but i thought door door in the face technique right right right like go for a case and then they'll scale back and they'll send you two you know got two of them and it's he still just got two still got two yeah so yeah so i said can you send me a case of that immediately and thirsty now send it right away i didn't expect even a response and then they again i can't give away the the details right i don't want anyone to try this ruse um but they then basically they said uh the way it works we can't they i guess they just couldn't ship me a bunch of it across state lines liquor business from such so they just said do you know this store they found the stone like yeah it's down the street they said go there there's a package for you and i thought oh that's nice they just there's a bottle of crown and i there was a big box and i got it brought it home and there's four big bottles of crown royal black inside nice which i would argue uh should at the pace that i drink it will last me my lifetime it's good for a few weeks i don't know yeah a bottle of that lot i i would think i went through that bottle in like a week or something like that and i don't usually drink that much but it was it was just so good it's so tasty it's tasty i mean one the bottle i bought a bottle immediately after you recommended it just based on your description uh and i went through it pretty fast now i'm just going to go to liquor stores and i'm going to be like hey is is there a box here for me like someone told me there was a box waiting for me just to see what happens you know yeah yeah it could work i mean like there was like when i remember as a kid we used to go and just knock on people's doors and ask if they had cookies
because like what were they gonna say like we were like five six years old yeah that's a that's a bold move yeah but it was a different time but it worked oh it worked a lot it worked a lot today like oh these adorable boys just knocked on our doors and asked for cookies when i was uh like a late teen like 18 or something like that i was hanging out with a friend halloween night and we're like we're too old to trick-or-treat that's embarrassing but we are bored out of our mind right now because you can't do anything when you're 18. halloween it's not like you can go to a bar and party or whatever so you're rendered powerless in both directions so we went around like like 9 30 almost 10 o'clock at night and did halloween caroling and like i had my acoustic guitar and going like door to door and like singing little songs and and people thought that was pretty great that is what songs did you sing like the monsters no i think we were just like riffing over like little chord progressions i knew or something like that like like just improving halloween songs that were nonsense i don't remember i was 18. you know a couple spooky chords we need answers there you go two decades ago on halloween night and i caroled for halloween candy what was the set list man
i wish i could remember i wish my memory was not good now what we're doing dude the listener won't will not who here's the podcast version will not you can't but we'll paint a picture with words you're in your garage you have guitars everywhere pedals everywhere yeah um i see a telecaster i see a les paul i see a flying v i see a strat an sg i see a fender starcaster i see a jazz master i see a vox is it a bat wing that's a hallmark uh it's very vox i'll grab it real quick he's got like also like four shelves of pedals about a dozen on each this is not that impressive swept wing and it is okay kind of boxy but it's it's based on uh a moserite style build oh is it like is that like a korean guitar it is cur it is made in korea like it is it like a more it's not a vintage guitar no no it's a it's a modern it was it's based on a brand that was a 60s brand and then a guy bought the name and and redid them in the 90s and up till now nice how many guitars do you have i don't like to count it makes me feel bad i'm the same way i'm the same way i actually have no idea i think it's around 20. i think i'm over 30. i was over 40 for a bit and i decided that was too many and i i'm trying to have a rule where i have less than 20 in this room and i don't think i'm less than that right now but i'm trying to get there um it was it was getting really bad like i didn't have enough stands to hold it all they were just laying everywhere and it's like i feel i have this anxiety like if i sell this thing then i'll never have it again so i would just keep all this stuff and then i i realized like every time i've ever sold something i never miss it afterwards so i've just been oh yeah try to know things like make space like i can't live in a guitar shop that's stupid like i still have to live in a home you know i think i think the word you're looking for is awesome oh it's so awesome so awesome i think the rule is you can't um i only have one guitar in the living room at home because i think uh when once you start like having guitars everywhere like in the normal living spaces yeah then uh you've turned a corner and done healthy living yeah oh totally well my my wife tries to be like hey honey it's it's okay that you can like you can hang some of those guitars here and the stairs or the hallway or here in the living room we can use them as decorations i was like do not encourage this behavior this is not no yeah you don't you know you don't live at the hard rock cafe right
no if i did the food might be better i mean that's that's a diss on my own cooking i'm the cookie
wait so okay how does the hard rock cafe get most of their stuff it's just all donations or do they go to auctions and go on loan i think no you can um they trade for food like the the transitions are coming through town and they're like we're so hungry and like okay we'll trade you a meal and you got to wash dishes too they get like cajun fries will get you like a
air clapton strat yeah no i think the way they do it is actually they buy like because i have a friend who was asking me recently what rock star friends because as you as as everyone know i have many rock star friends and he's like can you can you ask any of them if they have any stuff they want to sell and i will i'll get it i'll sell it to the hard rock cafe so i think they do buy it yeah it's a museum almost in a way they can move it around at different uh different locations plus like you know when you're like on your third tang teeny and you're staring up at like the bass player for god's smacks bass or whatever like doesn't really matter yeah i think i saw like papa roach's like microphone that they used oh my god they got the they got papa roach's mic i'm not i'm not here taking shots of paparoach i'm just i'm just saying i'm not either i'm just you know yeah it doesn't seem like it all belongs i was plus like
with with gear like i was and this is a true show business story i was in the apartment of michael jackson's manager one of his many managers i can't remember why i was there but he had all these signed guitars all over his house and they were signed by you know massive like eric clapton type people but they weren't they they were like squires and stuff right they're like carnival guitars yeah and it was just like this it was so carnival guitar called yeah well yeah every you know we have like a county fair here and every time you know like a big band plays like they get them to sign a bunch of guitars and they like try to auction them along squires and like yeah they're always like cheap guitars and then they always find their way onto like the local craigslist thing and there's always someone trying to sell you know like a hundred dollar guitar for like nine thousand dollars oh stevie nicks sign this like stevie nixon doesn't even play guitar what is this yeah that maybe she does i don't know i think no that that it just oh it's just such like an uh yeah it just and then like and i felt so bad because the guy i guess they meant a lot to him and that's all that matters yeah but to me it was driving me bonkers that he didn't have like guitars on the level of the players that had signed them right right well like i mean when in your mind you think like oh this guitar was signed by this famous person that i love but it kind of takes a lot away from it when it's like oh this isn't a guitar they actually played this is just a guitar that like a disc jockey handed them like hey sign sign a couple of these you know yeah it's not like it's not the guitar that they played on stage or anything like that even once it's just like here's you know sign this thing might as well have been an album it would have been cooler if it was an album probably yep man oh man well we pretty much torn hard rock cafe a new one i feel like they're never gonna recover from this they're never gonna recover i played a show at a hard rock cafe once they they're not the ones around here typically aren't venues but they they built like this makeshift uh stage on top of the the booths so they had this stage on top of the boost and like the ceiling was like right above my head as i was playing and i did the whole thing we're like because there's there was the row of guitars the slanged guitars and whatever hanging behind me and i did the thing where i like and i plugged into one of them and i like i strung the guitar up there and i thought i was so cool and i told that story to like a bunch of other local like band guys and they're like okay we've all we've all done that there like everyone does that every time they play that show okay now i don't feel cool anymore i thought you were gonna say you were like immediately escorted out
sir you you must leave i forget whose guitar it was it was some like hair metal guys guitar that was signed like i want to say winger but i'm sure it wasn't winger so you mean red beach who did did you also say red beach des yeah i did oh okay good i was just checking i have a form of a damn show i have a form of autism where i can spit out the name of any hair metal guitar player from any band it should like it said it's i have no control over it when did uh when did you get diagnosed with that 1987. but everyone everyone was naming hair metal guitars in 87 so it must have seemed kind of normal no i can't no it's a pretty i'm pretty good at it but then it's one of those things i'll say i'm good at it and then you'll probably stump me the first one i i'm terrible at knowing musicians like i care i care all about just the intricacies of the gear and stuff like that like like i don't know the names of musicians and bands that i adore like oh i don't i don't know the name of the guitarist and that i just know the name of like the songs and stuff like that yeah nerd it out in that direction i mean i don't know how to i don't know the names of any songs of a lot of bands that i really like more of the newer stuff you listen to now too not that because it's new music but just the way you're kind of taking it in right you're not like looking at the back of the scene spending time with it yeah i i used to know every every band ever like there was a time and i don't know when this shift i guess when i got older not that i'm old um but there was a time when if i would turn on the tv and there would be a band playing and i did not know exactly who it was it was because they were a christian rock group and that was the only reason i didn't know because they existed in in another orbit that i was out of my orbit
uh christian rock that's a that's the whole thing wait we have a uh some amazing comments uh well blue saracino wasn't poisoned for like a week that's accurate uh richie katzen in poison for a minute too yeah but then he porked ricky rocket's girlfriend right right oh yeah chased him off the gig uh jilly fitz has the best time on my life was hanging out with the roadies from night ranger a lot of people are bringing up striper too it's a humble brag right there stripe that's it i thought that would probably be pretty fun she says that she they hoovered so much schneif does anyone say that outside of schnife is that only from letter kenny or do people say that elsewhere i've never this is the first time i've heard it outside of letter kenny schneif yeah i'm glad uh a letter kenny reference has been made sarah stewart is uh a christian rock expert we should have her call in there you go gorky park and they're awesome oh it always i feel like that
a divining rod is not the right thing but somehow it always comes back to the gorky park kramer guitar
are you you're you've certainly for we've discussed this with you haven't we ryan i don't remember but i i will say that i don't consider a pawn shop to be a real pawn shop unless it has one like every every other pawn shop i've ever been in has the gorky park hanging behind the counter it's an amazing one one one of these days i'm just gonna quit messing around and just get one yeah and then also and i've not this has been my dream in life and there's still time to realize this dream but i feel like a real great use if i if i ever become extremely wealthy and it's fine if i don't but you really the only reason i have any desire to be extremely wealthy is just for the opportunity to do to play jokes with money um like it would just enable you to just do dumb stuff that would be funny like there was a dean guitar some years ago that was the shanker brothers michael and rudolph who uh anyone will tell you do not get along but i guess at some point in history they got along well enough to sign off on a guitar with both of their faces a flying v and it was like all drawings of them and schenker what would it be schenker abelia schenkophilia all matters schenker centric it was just shanker centric flying v um and i thought if i could just buy this guitar and send it to a friend of mine with no explanation that would be really uh a great use of my money a gag that i'd like to do if i if i was in the scenario where i had just unlimited amount of money is that uh prs guitars well basically custom shop whatever you request if you have enough money to throw at them and they they make all these things with like really odd carvings like people like get these prs's they have like owls and tigers and stuff carved into them and they always look a little bit funky and then they make it's like oh here's the press release for this funky carved guitar so i'd i'd like throw like 50 grand at prs and be like make me like a a home alone 3 theme and then and then i would do like the whole press release and i wouldn't have my name on at all i wouldn't be associated at all i'd just be like look why did they make this what are they people over there why home alone three now on a like this is an expensive guitar what are they doing that's like the prank that i would do and then and then you put it on reverb and you have the when the when reverb does the uh i hope we're not just too inside baseball with all this link is ebay no reaper it's like it is yeah it's ebay for guitars for everyone who doesn't know so the viewers are holding too dave by the way i know but i've been watching the viewership numbers very closely because i'm just really concerned at how alienating some of the things i'm saying must be
but if if if you did the home alone 3 prs guitar and then in that little box where it says like what that guitar as if there's more than one they're like actually kind of goes between 37 000 and uh 48 000. 50 is a little higher it really depends on the quality of the wood that got selected for each one you know we've got 10 tops here and we've got nine tops you have to figure out which one you want you know they're all appraised a little different you know the quality of the etching and the carvings and stuff like that supposedly vincent gallo collects uh he collects um corpses no like travis bean guitars like original yeah super expensive ones and he had one on reverb and the guy from electrical guitar company basically was said like yeah that's who this is and the guitar was going for like 200 000 or something stupid and um but it didn't include free shipping
it shows up without a case it's just like wrapped in so i wrote i wrote him and i i said would you i'm very interested would you consider doing free shipping on this didn't hear back it's the the shipping is really the issue can you please knock 75 off this 200 000
but it's not up there anymore that would drive me insane i get a little nervous anytime i ship anything imagine shipping something a fifth of a million dollars
oh yeah like just how anxious you would feel and then charging only 75 bucks for the shipping that's normal shipping for a guitar that's not like you know some sort of extravagant make sure it definitely gets their shipping that's just normal shipping yeah that's just popping it in the map imagine that getting lost in the mail like i wouldn't be able to sleep mike johnson in the chat raises a good point uh adam jones uh the guitar player from tool they came out with a bunch of uh signature model and then someone like what they broke into the truck or hijacked the truck or something that had all the guitars like a a regular old heist like an ocean's green thing that's amazing they stole like i'm assuming they stole the whole truck because it would take too long to unload a truck and do another truck to steal all those guitars so i'm just saying something that's like just that factory loaded truck of guitars not like his touring rig no no it's like he gibson made a signature model i'm sure what were they going for like six grand each or something oh yeah something like that and then they had a truck full of them and someone intercepted the truck and stole the truck on its delivery and it was all just those guitars like that's what the truck was full of how could you sell them like where would you sell you'd you just have to find bad can you keep a secret yeah you gotta go on the dark web craigslist it's all just dark web tool fans
yeah that's that's the trick like any time you hear about some famous person's guitar that went missing or got stolen or something like that you know the moment the person figured out what they stole they're like oh shoot no i can't sell it yeah what do i do with this thing because the moment i sell it then it's then i'm then i'm busted someone's going to track me down that's why i always say if you're going to steal steel you know pedals because no one knows yeah steel pedals like you know just steal pedals guys sonic youth had their entire tour bus stolen i think at some point it happens too much like tour like bands on tour like half the time i hear their stuff gets nabbed like they you gotta have someone out by the van out by the trailer the whole time you're playing a gig which is a bummer it's a bummer to have someone on the road with you it's like oh your job is to stay outside and just watch the trailer that's not fun that's not rock and roll that's not good times yeah you're just a babysitter for an automotive thing yeah that's a super i've had guitars stolen the worst it's a bummer yeah it's a bummer bro
i've never had a guitar stolen but uh in in my band it's it's not active anymore i've got this band called dinosaur ghost and we wear these uh these skulls we wear dinosaur skulls on our head and uh already yeah i made the skulls and it was this whole like crafting thing that i did and on one of the shows at the end of this set i grabbed the skull and i threw it up in the air and i turned around i started packing stuff up and i turned around and grabbed to grab the skulls and pack them up in the boxes and my skull is gone my skull is missing oh and i had a gopro running on the set the whole time and i couldn't find it like someone stole this i go home and i checked the gopro and it's like the moment i threw it in the air and it fell on the ground i turned around someone ran forward grabbed it and i have a shot of them running out the door with it it's like congratulations you stole the thing for a band that no one is ever going to care about and it's probably in the trash somewhere now
and they took it though i mean it was made out of like chicken wire and toilet paper and duct tape wrapped around it i'm a little i'm a little you know i'm complimented that they wanted it so bad but i kind of wish i had that first one that i made too could still be in their home today uh hung up there where they're wearing it right now masturbating furiously oh man yeah that sounds i hope i hope that's what's happening that's the hope i hope it's their masturbation hat for sure i mean you guys wear that's when you masturbate right uh i ca yeah i mean any intimacy i need a hat uh-huh yeah a person personal or group whatever pedals uh and i'm i'm watching these numbers so closely here we go um petals theft i think is i remember
uh being as a pretty young thing playing shows in new york city like at cbgb's and people would just occasionally sometimes someone would just grab a pedal and run out with it and i've had i've never had that happen to me but i've had it happen to bandmates and to this day the first thing i do when i'm done just rocking people just out of their minds as i just yank all my pedals back so that's not gonna happen so now i've told my secret now someone's like okay just uh be ready to reach about a foot and a half further to grab dave's pedals now everyone put solar pedals on you know pedal boards with heavy velcro and stuff like that but back in the day we would we would just string them together and they'd just be floating around the stage and be easier like you know you want to steal a pedal off a pedalboard you've got to have like a spatula and like you kind of work on edit for a while together to really want it yeah not mine because i'm too lazy like i i spend all this time putting together like the perfect pedal board and i'm like i've done it i've done it and then when it comes time to do the show i'm like ah i don't want all these i just want this this and this right right they just rip them up and then drag them down we've lost one it went from 42 to 41 that's what happens when you talk
and this will keep me up all night where did they go they heard us talking about pedals and they got out of here pedal talk in the chat i think people crime really is what we're talking about yeah yes pedal crime is the problem pedal crime yeah pedal talk yeah ensuring it a one and a two raises a good point you gotta insure it insure your pedals yeah i have we had an issue with one of my old bands where uh uh after a set someone came up to us and was accusing us of stealing their tuner pedal like that's my tuner pedal uh no this is our tuner pedal you lost your tuner pedal if you can't find it or someone else stole it because this is ours and like it was back when we were just running just just tuners no pedal boards and after that after that moment this person just being very angry and very upset with us thinking that we stole their tuner pedal like the rest of the guys in the band we all like started engraving all our stuff like scratching our names into pedals and stuff like that yeah never again never again will someone accuse me of stealing their tuner pedal i always can identify my stuff because it's it's always broken like something stupid has happened i've done you know damaged in some way yeah i think our pet i i think the tuner was too new is the problem the person saw it was like that's a nude tuner like that's a sassy new tuner yeah i need that sassy new tuner oh man yeah this is exciting stuff i i'm surprised we haven't lost more viewers we're holding strong i mean you know there's wait any there could be any explanation for any viewers that we have lost the number by the way is 347 474 o2
introducing philips omniwire pressure guidewire sorry the world's first solid what i was trying to queue a video up and it just started playing an ad it went wrong well we gained a viewer so it worked yeah yeah whatever you hear about that that thing is some sort of phillips thing it sounds like it sounds exciting it sounded promising yeah now um all that gear uh do you is is this this is all gear that you use regularly behind you or don't you demo it what's that i mean it you know before covet and all that i you know had a band and i would play uh i would play weekly at my church and stuff like that so i would put a lot of it to use fairly regularly but now it's just like that just sits here in the garage and if i use it in a video then i use it and it just it feels like a lot i'll say that it feels like too much stuff to have for what i'm actually doing around here no that's where you're wrong it is nice to have variety to be like oh here's my les paul here's you know my sg here's my telecaster here's blah blah blah and have you know one of every variety of thing but uh it it becomes a lot like it it becomes tricky when it's like you pick up a guitar like well i haven't played this uh since the last time i restrung it and the strings are rusty yeah because it's been four months and it's just been hanging on the wall you know hanging there yeah that's interesting you know that's where i started playing guitar in church and that's how i got good at guitar was playing when i was like 13.
it was uh i got really well i would i didn't uh i didn't get i got really good at chords because all the songs in church yeah were so simple um this is the thing i can only speak for the catholic church but my theory on the catholic church song book is that there is was so little competition for church hymns that all these priests just slid all these clunkers in ah yeah once in a while you get an eagle's wings whatever you know a real hit on your hands but then the rest were like really simple like three chord things and there's very almost never like a hook but it it made me like be able to practice different chord forms because i was like i only have three chords in this song yeah totally and i'm playing with a nun who's playing a nylon string guitar that's just like like and so i was just working on all these chord and it was actually like an amazing uh way to get good at guitar because it's simple i was it gave me out of this wiggle room to uh to try things out yeah yeah there's something about church music where it's like it's built for like you know the person that wrote the music is like we don't know who's gonna be at this church if they have you know any musical training at all let's make the simplest songs that we can that yeah people can sing along to and that you know most people can who play guitar will or any instrument will have no problem tackling and so it's kind of like this sort of balance where it's like these are super simple simple simple songs but then that's also the critique like people look from the outside in like oh this is your music why is this so simplistic it's like well it kind of has to be it's like a utilitarian thing it does because he got some church in the middle of nowhere this got like 20 people going to it and there's only one person who plays guitar it's like you can't overwhelm them with you know a bunch of jazz chords or something yeah but then i then as a kid i would always think like oh man if you just had a stone cold jam that was just such an ear worm yeah i bet we could pack another 20 people in here you really hear that collection plate tinging in the back like oh yeah they're loving it
people come back for seconds of communion yeah it worked that's the stuff yeah i i uh oh i grew up in i'm still in like southern california style like jesus freak kind of style churches and the music is very kind of like more rock and roll centered and basically like youtube cover bands for like the extent of it like it's it's a lot of fun i'll say that as as an adult who's still doing it i do it because it's fun you know it's like every week when i get to go play at church it's like oh i get to i have a gig where i get to go have fun and play around with my gear every week and literally and eat donuts in between you know i saw you have a whole specific pedal board for church like a whole church board right you have a video or you oh yeah yeah yeah uh well it's it's my main like gigging board and i swap stuff in and out but it's like you know most of the stuff stays on there for church when i play a church yeah there's a lot of you know drives and delay pedals and reverbs and stuff you know another crowd know the audience yeah that's that's that's my problem is playing in different bands i have i have four different and now i can could not possibly be watching the numbers more closely than i am right now we're still at 42. it's incredibly stable it's amazing 43. we did it we broke the barrier this is huge um but i i have a different board for each band two of the bands very the board's very similar valley lodge and paint adult the boards are pretty similar which chain totally different board and then my comedy show board is totally different from all of them because that's when you that's when you can break out yeah the rainbow machine yes that's a funny pedal there you go the rainbow machine is um you know that pedal right oh yeah it's in earthquake or devices yeah it's um it's i i always joke around it it's not the most practical pedal um yeah it's pretty far down the list of practical pedals but uh it never gets a very big laugh when i say that around the fact when i visit the factory they sell a lot of those oh they're cool i have one they're great yeah i to anyone who's not familiar with what this pedal is it basically makes your guitar sound like a unicorn is sick to its stomach and just puking and pissing and pooping everywhere it's it's incredible yeah it's yeah i don't have it with me but yeah no it's it but and you can you know it's actually a very nice chorus pedal if you said it a certain way a lot of people don't know that yeah but it's like in a pinch you could basically uh
take all its thunder out and just have a nice chorus pedal and with that sentence which you would think would be the most alienating sentence i've said all night we're we're at her top numbers yeah 45 we made this it's amazing this is it i think you know uh i i mean because i remember back on the wfmu show a friend had stopped by to see the studio and uh we got into some pedal talk and she just got up and kind of like waved like i'm out of here i can't be around this any longer that's one person it's right it's just one person you know but it's but it's it made me think like me this is a dangerous area but it's you're as you say it is one person now i know i'm like oh well i actually you know because i did the the live 60 cycle um uh show a few weeks ago and i was bragging about having the astral destiny earthquake or devices pedal and now i still do but it's i have no update it's just it's still there i was just looking to see like what what up-to-date pedal do i have and i'm like oh that's the most up to up-to-date i did a damn demo this one here if you want to see it look at this it's a big boy oh my gosh what is that this is a spring reverb but it's unlikely there's spring reverb how about that a game changer light pedal i'm get i'm going to film this tomorrow probably uh it's got a real spring inside of it and wow it uses uh like lights and optical sensors to detect the motion of the spring to produce its sound it's it's a totally like different style pedal and uh it's it's a trip so that's what's sitting next to me right now now this is a dangerous question because it this could very well threaten your livelihood depending on how you answer
and it could threaten my ability to have people give me pedals which i'm a big fan of by the way if anyone's listening and wants to give me pedals guitars or alcohol in any form those are the big three for me that i like to receive um and then um but do you find you go you get like that pedal that you just showed that that looks super cool pedal game game changer yeah you get it you mess around with it you'll be like this is a game changer uh these guys have really outdone themselves uh everyone's gonna be uh
jason after these guys yeah and then you unplug it and you set it down and you never touch it again
that is that is like the constant struggle because i get you know this is my job i'm i'm an influencer you're an mds which is a odd thing to say uh but you know it's my job to constantly be covering the new stuff as it comes out and there's just not opportunity for me to use it all and it makes me feel guilty like oh i never played a show with this pedal and now i'm gonna like sell it or something like that or i never tried it with a band and now you know just sits on a shelf but yeah it's my job to just demonstrate what they can do and let the audience yeah let go decide if they need it you know that no one should no one should live the way i'm living with dozens of guitars and hundreds of pedals like that's unhealthy like everyone should have a normal amount of guitars and normal amount of pedals and they should only buy things that they really truly think that they'll use you know and it's just my job to demonstrate them for them you know but that's that's counterintuitive to
uh anyone who plays guitar no we all want piles and piles and piles of stuff we want every thing i keep going back and forth because i i i go through these and i i think self-loathing is really at the oh yeah the core of it but as a kid i always thought wouldn't it be cool to have a ton of guitars you have so many guitars that you would forget about guitars that you even had and then you would reach into a closet and be like oh yeah this thing and now that is my reality right and it has not made me happy no it has not brought the happiness i thought it would instead i think what a shame uh someone should be playing this yeah yeah well there's definitely more guitars in the in the world than there are people playing guitars as my theory right now like like every guitarist that i know has like you know a small pile of guitars even if it's only like three or four or something like that i'm sure there's you know people who think three or four sounds like a lot um but uh i think there's more guitars and there are guitars and i'm i'm always wondering like when are people just going to stop buying them because there's already enough like they don't go bad guitars don't go bad you can just playing them for exactly decades they get better and it's like one day is the industry just gonna crumble because like we don't need to make any more guitars like all the earth's natural resources have been converted into guitars and there's no reason to build anymore no i mean that would actually be the right thing to do just be like you know what we've done it um we do have a few guitars with robot tuners left if anyone wants those
other than that
yeah it's it's it's i don't know what the answer is it's but i i i sold a guitar a couple weeks ago to someone i sold it to them because i knew that they really liked it and i knew they would be it would have a good home and a nice life and i wouldn't i would not have sold it to anyone else yeah but i was just like this guitar is going to go forward and rock way more with this guy than if it stays with me and i felt really good about it it feels good to give them away i've got i've given away a few and it feels good every time and then i i never feel like oh i missed that guitar like this it's somewhere else now someone is playing it or they've passed it on or they sold it i don't know they're doing something with it and like i'm glad it's out there living its life i sold this one let me be clear sure sure and i did give i did give a guitar uh to a friend because he just wanted to borrow a guitar and it's ridiculous to me to say that i don't have a guitar for someone to borrow because i have too many so i said sure take this one and then he moved and i noticed the guitar did not come back i was like so you clearly were conscious you moved across the country with this guitar and i said hey um if you're playing this by all means hang on to it but if not i might say give it back until i lost my green screen and lighting kit oh no i haven't decided that i moved i have a hard rule that i don't loan anything to musicians if i ever need to have it back i'm like alone is usually going to turn into just like oh it's theirs now you know yeah i mean i've accepted i'm never going to see this guitar again because he he hit this was via text and it was only only because i was having this just one day where i was like you know what i'm gonna get rid of all the guitars i don't i really have a purpose for so i was like if this guy's using it it has a purpose if he's not i'm taking it back and i'm going to sell it and then so i texted him that and he just texted back a frown face which didn't really answer my question and i just didn't pursue it i was like all right whatever is happening this guitar is yours no i don't care
like she just didn't want to deal with it i commonly have the thought like what's gonna happen someday if i like die unexpectedly and there's just all this stuff left behind for like my family to figure out what to do with and it's like like if you know i'll go and i'll sell like you know a dozen pedals at a time to make room or whatever and it takes me you know weeks to deal with everything to sell them like what's gonna happen if i'm dead someday and my wife is like what do i do with all these pedals what do i do with all these guitars it's like technically she could probably pay the bills for a year by selling them but then like she's going to have to become like a professional ebay or something like that yeah like what if she like i i because i'm a childless man and i i don't anticipate that'll change that as i uh get into the winter of my life i will start um getting rid of guitarists because i won't trust my nieces and nephews to handle them i'll because they'll be like what is this uh gold topless ball i don't know give me 300 bucks for it exactly i don't want that to happen i would rather just get you know the money now yeah yeah i hopefully my wife just like takes him to an auction house or something like that and has the sense to like alert the community like hey all ryan's stuff is going up for auction or something would it be helpful to you if i offered my services just as like a
yeah an executor sure yeah yeah
if i if i ever am looking down you know the barrel of death's door i'll probably start like contacting people and making promises like hey this is yours now come get it and then i'll tell my wife no don't give it to them
cause drama after i'm dead but yeah if you get yeah you can't
that's like i even had a thought i was gonna mine one of my relatives like niece or nephew wanted to play the electric guitar and i was like i'll be a cool uncle i'm gonna give them a really good guitar but then i said no that's really dumb because they're probably gonna just throw in the closet and not do anything and then so my brother bought them like a you know really cheap guitar and that's what they did they played it for like a week yeah every time i've like encountered someone who's starting you know a thing that i do for fun whether it be you know guitar or something else and i've had the instinct of like oh wait let me let me get the thing for you let me help hook you up whatever uh the handful of times i've done it it's always been a big disappointment like oh they didn't actually fall in love with it the way that i'm in love with it and you know i went to all this trouble to like get them a thing and now i know that they're not using it yeah i i surf and uh you know when when i was younger there was this girl i liked and she had vague interest in like oh i want to try surfing and so i went and bought like this 400 surfboard like gifted it to her and of course things didn't work out but for the rest of my life i'm like man that was a nice surfboard i should have kept oh man why did i do that why was why was i so crazy to do that thing
yeah that happens to me well i guess it's not the same thing but people always always say hey we you want to go to um whatever store and help me pick out a guitar i want i want to play the guitar or my kid wants to play the guitar and i'm always like oh he's like all right you're going to need five thousand
dollars then eventually i'm like all right now just get this get this 200 i mean the reality is like people have to fall in love with any of the these sorts of things to actually want to do it and like loading a bunch of nice gear on someone when they're about to start like isn't going to make them fall in love with it they need to go through the experience everyone else went through like go find the cheapest crappiest acoustic that's available and you fall in love with it even though it sucks and then you
you work up from there and then you discover what good is you need to know what bad is before you discover what good is you know this is true this is this is this is the lesson we've learned tonight yeah this is the whole reason we're doing this to find this nugget of truth and it's amazing wow we have one minute left and we've really held on uh it was at 50 for a couple minutes it was it was oh it was feeling good it felt like they got over the top yeah oh yeah we did it ryan thank you so much where can every i i know where where everyone can find you but you tell everyone where they are search for 60 cycle hum on youtube to watch my videos we also publish the podcast there we're also on every podcast feed thing for the audio podcast and we're on instagram and facebook and all that stuff so every everywhere you look for things we're there because that's what it takes to be in business these days that's right yeah cool well thank thank you and um thanks for having me this is this is always fun you know please come back and we'll we'll pedal it up some more even though i i realize i'm simplifying it it's just that's just a vernacular we've started pedal talk i like it even though that in we didn't even talk about amps oh i mean i wanted to talk about and i didn't want to talk about it next time next time all amp talk the whole time thank you everyone for tuning in live thanks for everyone listening in the futuristic podcast format thank you to boy criminal chris kurzbek thank you new jersey chicken rancher dez got it thanks again to ryan burke from 60 cycle um i'm dave hill from before if you would like to support this program go to maximumfun.org join and uh they'll tell you all fun ways you can support the network in this show and whatnot i like that jaunty music feels good all right let's let's ride off into the sunset
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